{"id":118,"date":"2026-03-25T17:47:38","date_gmt":"2026-03-25T17:47:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mavogt.online\/newwebsite\/?p=118"},"modified":"2026-03-25T22:54:56","modified_gmt":"2026-03-25T22:54:56","slug":"how-awful-can-a-ups-be","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mavogt.online\/newwebsite\/how-awful-can-a-ups-be\/","title":{"rendered":"How awful can a UPS be?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I needed a UPS that could support about 30W for several hours and after looking at the specifications of consumer grade UPS units for a couple days I became very discouraged.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The scope of my research was mostly UPS units that were under 450VA.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Conversion Efficiency:<\/strong> I found out that most units (Even at a reasonable 60W load.) were less than 50% efficient.&nbsp; (Most were about 35%)&nbsp; The most logical component for the poor efficiency was the transformer and I was shocked how inefficient they were.&nbsp; (Way too small for the VA rating of most of them.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/notenoughwire.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/BE350G-Runtime.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1165\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I found a video of someone attaching a large battery to one of these small units to extend the run time and the transformer melted through the case into the carpet floor and almost caught fire. &nbsp; I started recording the battery size and the run time for a 60W load from the runtime charts that were offered.&nbsp; The data was horrible, I just couldn&#8217;t believe that it passed UL.&nbsp; The good thing is that the larger VA rating of the UPS, the more efficient the transformer became.&nbsp; <strong>It did seem unreasonable to purchase a 700VA UPS to drive a 40W load!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Battery:<\/strong> The battery in these consumer grade units were unbelievably small, like 4AH.&nbsp; I get it, batteries are heavy and the price point is low for home units.&nbsp; A 350VA UPS would need roughly 25-35 Amps from this tiny 4AH battery contained inside.&nbsp; Looking at a typical battery specification, the efficiency of the battery is terrible at this high current draw.<br><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-1170\" src=\"https:\/\/notenoughwire.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/3.5AH-Battery-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"268\" height=\"157\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">My rules of thumb after working with UPS units for 10 years is that any UPS that supports more than 100W should have a 24V battery. (It&#8217;s actually more efficient to light a 60W light bulb with a 12V battery for some reason.)&nbsp; I wrote all this up including charts and posted negative review on Amazon.&nbsp; Sure enough, APC came out with a much more efficient unit (~70%) about a year later.&nbsp; (No 60HZ Transformer)&nbsp; The complaints posted on Amazon suggest that the high frequency design is not as reliable.&nbsp; If you are wondering I have five of them and they are still in service a year later with no failures.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"660\" height=\"920\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-1157 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/notenoughwire.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Stall-UPS-e1543646726342-735x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The UPS I ended up using was a $40 BN450M that has no transformer and generates very little heat. (So it can run a long time, but it doesn&#8217;t have any active cooling so I had to be careful.)&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/notenoughwire.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/image-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-16387\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The first designs removed the board and put them in a much larger case.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/notenoughwire.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/image.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-16386\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The final design removed the battery and set the UPS onto a plastic tub with several much larger batteries underneath. I did end up putting a heat sink on the battery charger component since it takes several days to recharge the battery.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">They keep the cameras up for about 2 hours with much larger external batteries mostly because APC included a timing &#8220;Feature&#8221; that shuts down the UPS at 160 minutes.&nbsp; <span style=\"color: #993300;\"><strong>I also found out that the batteries are floating at approximately 55VAC. (They need to be protected from accidental contact while the UPS is connected to commercial power.)<\/strong><\/span> &nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Boat Anchors:<\/strong> UPS units in the 1000-1500VA range are reasonably efficient at 100W, but they can weigh 60-80Lbs with the batteries.&nbsp; The 18AH batteries in most of them should be limited to 36Amps which yields ~800W with two in series (24V) and they produce less than half their rated capacity at that current.&nbsp; I wanted roughly 100 Watts for 2-1\/2 hours. (250WH delivered to the load.)&nbsp; With a conversion efficiency of 70% and counting the conversion losses, I need roughly 370WH of battery power.&nbsp; Two 18AH batteries have roughly 432WH of energy and 370WH will leave some charge in the battery.&nbsp; Keep in mind though that two 18AH batteries exceed 30Lbs and the UPS is probably 20Lbs without the batteries.<img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"715\" height=\"552\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1162\" src=\"https:\/\/notenoughwire.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/Su1400-Runtime-1.png\" alt=\"\"><br><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"704\" height=\"565\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1163\" src=\"https:\/\/notenoughwire.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/LS700-Runtime-1.png\" alt=\"\"><br><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"755\" height=\"562\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1164\" src=\"https:\/\/notenoughwire.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/BN450M-Runtime-1.png\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At the end of the day the &#8220;Solar Generator&#8221; with a UPS function is a much more effective purchase for a long runtime.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>UPS units are engineered to produce almost the power labeled on the box for a very short time.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":120,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-118","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bitsofknowlege"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mavogt.online\/newwebsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/118","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mavogt.online\/newwebsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mavogt.online\/newwebsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mavogt.online\/newwebsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mavogt.online\/newwebsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=118"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/mavogt.online\/newwebsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/118\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":121,"href":"https:\/\/mavogt.online\/newwebsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/118\/revisions\/121"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mavogt.online\/newwebsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/120"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mavogt.online\/newwebsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=118"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mavogt.online\/newwebsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=118"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mavogt.online\/newwebsite\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=118"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}